![]() Well put, sir, especially the analogy to the RF. My other argument for including it, particularly for 8 QH at a minimum, is the fact that if you pursue this as an advantage play enough, it becomes increasingly likely that you will hit 8 QH and 9 QH at some point. That would be similar to discounting the RF in Video Poker as part of the Base Return, given the fact that the RF is unlikely. I'm afraid I have never seen a probability for the 5 QHP symbols, but rest assured, it isn't very good! That would be similar to discounting the RF in Video Poker as part of the Base Return, given the fact that the RF is unlikely. ![]() ![]() ![]() I wouldn't discount the Base Returns of the higher payouts, personally, just because it is part of the Base Return. I think that makes sense, as I have not taken into account the rate of the meter rise at all. Thanks again for the info and the sim analysis! On a slightly different subject, does anyone know the frequency of the top jackpot (for 5 Quick Hit Platinum symbols)? The info that I have seen only includes the ones for 5 through 9 Quick Hit symbols. Sure you could discount, or exclude, the meter rise of the higher jackpots, but if you do that, you might as well discount ALL of the return from these. Consider this, the "base return" with respect to 6QH is 88% plus the meter rise rates of all the other meters. In other words, my decision of when to play for the 6QH is dependent on the base return, the bet amount, and the frequency and reset of the 6QH jackpot. Perhaps it is because neither of our numbers take into account the rate of meter rise from the jackpots that we aren't playing for. This fails "unit analysis." You may be questioning why the numbers that I get are higher than yours and yet you have had success with your numbers. The problem I see is adding a value in unit bets to a dollar amount. The reason is because the Expected Return is based on one unit bet, which is already $1.50. ![]() I could be wrong, but I don't believe so. ![]()
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